Missing in Thailand - by Debra Barnard - Chapter 1

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CHAPTER 1

The tempter or the tempted,

who sins most?

William Shakespeare, ‘Measure for Measure’

‘He come!’

Ning stuck her head round the crude curtain which served to screen the steamy, fume-laden shack-kitchen from the eating area – plastic tables and chairs, a few grains of rice in the salt pots to counter the humidity, the container of toothpicks exposed to the air’s bugs and flies and dirty little fingers so often seen up nostrils and the plastic holder for paper serviettes which dissolved at the slightest hint of moisture.

‘Who come?’ barked Mai, irritable and hot. The evening was advanced and she hated, truly hated, having to work like this, feeding not farang – foreigners - but her greedy “husband” and his pals. Things had been better than this and she resented the downturn in her lifestyle.

‘Tall farang who come before.’

A smirk flickered across Mai’s taut features. ‘Rollee!’ she muttered. A determined glint darted from her eyes and, with a sharp nod, her mood lifted.

‘Toss,’ Ning said.

‘Toss yourself,’ Mai scoffed, ‘he mine.’

‘No, me have him,’ Ning squealed, feigning a sulk, pouting. ‘Toss,’ she persisted, slapping a 5 baht coin on the back of her left hand.

‘No way,’ the older woman retorted fiercely.

Ning knew her place. She would do as she was told or she would suffer Mai’s wrath.

Ning took the farang’s order. Kop and the others, had sussed-out his name and where he worked weeks ago but he only came in every few months, when his wife was away.

Kop was a pig, lazy and greedy. And he was useless in bed. Too much beer, too many rough Mekong whisky-chasers and too much ya-ba to get it up. She liked sex, she was used to sex and she needed sex. She knew she was on heat right now, despite her irritability, because of her irritability, and she was wet. Oh, to break the boredom, the tedium of cooking, and Kop, and Chiang Mai.

Mai paid special care to Rollee’s food, adding copious pong churot, mono-sodium glutamate, to make it tasty, irresistible. She had an agenda for tonight.

Ning kept his beer-glass filled. Between them they laced the beer with ya-ba, drugs.

A Thai copy of the new drug, Viagra, easily available within the ‘low life’ they lived among - and Kop knew where to get anything - would come later if things looked good. Ning would watch for her nod.

The farang ate and drank, grunting and mumbling as he relaxed, smiling, head nodding on long neck. He was the only westerner in the eatery. He always came in alone, somewhat self-consciously, always slowly with measured step; he was an odd-ball alright. Mai tidied herself, combed her hair which she’d coloured only yesterday. She was 32 and the years of toil as a hooker and part-time cook were beginning to show. Her complexion was less than perfect, the large brown mole, despised by northern Thai beauties, on her left cheek disclosing her hill-tribe origins but her eyes, large mocking eyes, were still her best feature. She pencilled her eyebrows, scratched some colour on her lips, smoothed the skimpy top over her small breasts, tried to disguise the cooking fumes in her clothes with a spray of cheap perfume – and she went out to Laurie.

The sap was already showing signs of intoxication. Kop, her pimp and third “husband” – she wasn’t divorced from the first really - had already called out a welcome and sent over a large bottle of Singha beer to him. The man’s face was unusual, well-honed and spare of surplus flesh, his nose crooked, quirky, his lean cheek-bones flushed already, his eyes close-set, hawkish, under heavy brows. He nodded to Mai in his polite way and, slurring – the beer was working – said in his dreadful Thai that her food was delicious. Mai pulled up the chair opposite Laurie, smirking to her left at Kop who raised an eyebrow of acknowledgement. Over Laurie’s head she gave a curt nod to Ning who obediently brought another beer for the sucker.

‘Enough, enough,’ he said, using the Thai word, lifting his long hands expressively, fingers spread over his glass, his plate. The conspirators giggled but no warmth reflected in their brown-eyed, impassive glances. Ning patted his shoulder and said, ‘One more, Khun Rollee, one more.’ They welcomed him back.

Laurie was feeling exasperated with his work, tired by the graft and the tedium of the different cultures, maddened by the new General Manager, the psychopath who made their life a misery at work, and perplexed by his own behaviour. He knew he should return to England, take a chance on the job market there, settle down again, make Ellen happy; and yet he couldn’t. He suspected he was on the slippery slope; the marriage, which he knew he wasn’t making an effort in, work-wise, Ellen never seeing him and getting damned crotchety because of it; he knew he was entirely to blame. He was driven by money and the security money brought yet it was affecting his health, his mentality and he had no answer for it. A mid-life crisis. Beer was not the answer – but it helped.

How many glasses had he had now? Surely not three? He couldn’t take it. A sixteen hour working day, poor canteen food at lunchtime, then several pints of beer at night. He wanted to say that he should leave but his tongue seemed paralysed. He heard a buzzing in his head. Was he hallucinating? He saw an aura of blue. His shoulders sagged. A limpness flowed through his arms, his wrists, his hands and fingers. A warm tingle pierced knotted muscle as his shoulders were manipulated, his neck caressed. Was he enunciating the ‘oohs’ and ‘aahhs’ of pleasure this tension-reliever gave him or was his imagination playing tricks? He felt, or dreamed, that little hands, four little hands, slipped into his own long, slim ones and determinedly tugged him to a standing position.

‘Whooa,’ his head spun, his long legs were jelly-like. Female giggles and raucous male laughter penetrated the fog of his mind as he wobbled and blundered out onto the rough pavement, tripping and stumbling over the stinking gutter, past the honk-honk and knowing looks of the tuk-tuk drivers…

The room, more a window-less cell, was ill-lit, sparse and cheap, the bed narrow, short and unclean, the air fetid.  

Still in her underwear, Mai sat on one of the two plastic chairs, her legs outstretched, ankles crossed, sulkily picking at her fingernails, the boredom palpable. In the poor light, a glow provided by one cheap table lamp, she was neither seductive nor pretty; a care-worn tramp in a gloomy, seedy room. Her mocking eyes gazed down at the farang, a huge disappointment in one sense but, Mai knew, very valuable for the future, if only for the immediate future. The ya-ba and the tiny bit of Viagra had given her enough time, more than enough time, to do what she had to do. His black leather wallet, protruding from a pocket in his Chinos, had yielded just enough baht, not much but she had enough ‘alternative currency’, to reimburse her, or rather Kop the pig, for the beer, the food and the drugs. Stealing just two 1000 baht notes from his wallet, she had also plucked his company business card and his home address card. Currency enough!

He had been a difficult lay though. Even in his drugged and drunken state he had put up a good fight, honourable bastard. Before he’d passed out she’d heard him try to resist, saying he was ‘too old and past it.’ She’d worked hard, stroking and caressing the places she knew, from experience, most of them liked, if they noticed.

‘N, no, naughty,’ he’d mumbled.

Working quickly, she deftly positioned herself on his erection, sufficient for her opening, slack now after two child-births but tight enough for farang, and had expertly sat on him, her buttocks nestling into his hairy groin, his hip-bones too broad for her slight Asian frame. How she hated these hairy foreigners, hated the way their coarse pubic hairs chafed her moist vagina, making it sore. She would never get used to them. She felt his big hands on her hips as she raised herself, pulled his penis and paused, pushed down, rose, pulled and paused. And she’d tightened her grip, her sphincter muscles taut. At his thrust, though, when he finally threw his head back, groaned and succumbed, his subconscious senses had alerted his conscience, sending signals of danger, and he had pushed her off - or she had lost it. Curse him.

And then he slept.

Sober and angry, she thought to cram every wasted seed into her in the hope that she would have yet another meal-ticket – a passport which would take her from the night-time drudgery of the shabby eatery, to give her and her alone, prestige - clothes, jewels, a mobile ’phone, and possibly another husband. Even one who might soon die!

But the fleeting thought was futile and now she was tired and bored and wanted to be rid of him. She wiggled her toes in annoyance. She put out her foot and nudged his, overhanging the thin mattress, his beige socks still on but one hanging half off, disturbed when she’d pulled his trousers down in her anxious attempts to undress him, seeing already that he was too far gone to be of much use to her, the sock limp as he now was. He lay diagonally across the bed, hands on hairy chest, corpse-like, his legs together. He did not move.

Cat-like, she sneaked into the small spare space, a triangle made by the angle of his legs, towards the bottom of the right side of the bed. From the depths of his sleep he gave a whimper, pained, childlike. He moved, groaned, turned away from her, curled himself up tightly, perilously near the edge. At his stirring, she sprang back to the plastic chair, resumed her pose, waited for his awakening. He remained still, his breathing barely audible.

Time passed.

Behind a crude screen, in the corner of the room, the slow rhythmic plunk, plunk of a dripping tap cut the silence. A whiff of ammonia from the open, squat-style toilet drifted over the air-less room.

Grumpily, the woman lay on the floor and dozed. And then she, too, slept.

Now he was moving and she was awake, alert. She stood up, shivered, shrugged her tense shoulders and waited stealthily in the room’s dark recesses.

He uncurled slowly and lay on his back, the palms of his hands opening loosely on his chest. His eyelids, flickering over leaden eyes, fought a battle between slumber and wakefulness, his joints, stiff and aching, felt solid, immovable, his stomach churned as nausea swept through him. He put a hand to his head as the throbbing in his forehead prevented him from rising. Comprehension at first evaded him and then, suddenly, through bruising pain, fragments of memory returned.

“Jesus Christ!” He still had his shirt on, unbuttoned to the waist but damp and crumpled. And his socks. “God, he’d still got his socks on! Was there a loo?” He didn’t know whether he wanted to pee or puke. His temples throbbed, the blood pounding. “Christ, I feel ill. My head feels as though it’ll break off at my neck,” he thought.

‘What’s the time?’ he mumbled, mouth dry, tongue furry, vision blurred as he tried to peer at his watch in the half-light, could not focus on the luminous dial, blinked, tried again. “Five forty seven, five forty seven – the morning – bloody hell.” His addled brain tried to grasp the magnitude of the situation, the enormity of the horror.

‘Where are my things?’

He felt very ill.

She came towards him, out of the gloom, smirking.

He blinked, blinked again, heavy eyelids scratching blood-shot eyes. “Who is she? Bloody hell, the cook – the cook from the eatery!”

‘There.’

‘Where?’ peering into the gloom of the room, only a sliver of dawn-light slanting in through the broken fins of a ventilator set high up the wall. ‘Where are my trousers?’

‘Here – I put. Worret in pock’t.’ She replied in her pidgin English.

‘Where am I? How did I get here?’

‘Tuk-tuk, I bring. Las’ nigh’ you drun’.’

‘Drunk, I’m never drunk. Where’s my car? What time is it? Christ what a mess! Do you want money? How much?’ he rasped, finding the wallet.

‘I take nuff, Rollee. You ole man, you go home now.’

“I must get out of here,” Laurie screeched to himself, fumbling with his clothes, lurching, unbalanced, dazed, his head throbbing, his bladder near to bursting. “No time for that, I must get out!”

Ill and disoriented he never knew how long it took him to retrace his footsteps - she’d laughed when he asked for help, ‘where are we, where is this place?’ the woman having no further interest in him – and finally reached his car. The streets were empty, the sidewalks unclean, as unclean as he - unkempt, unshaven, unwashed, undone - as he stumbled out of the grimy room, into the morning air, struggling to recall where he had left the vehicle, turning the wrong corner, retracing his steps, thinking back to last night now a lifetime away, what day it was. “Should he be at work?” Past bars, closed now, raucous pop-music silenced, neon doused, tawdry, vulgar, the mis-spellings of sign-writing no longer amusing in the harsh light of day; waste-bins, lid-less, overflowing, dogs scavenging; splatterings of lumpy vomit, cats, delicate noses twitching, cautiously sniffing, bellies brushing pavement, skulking away, feral; a whiff of urine; saffron glimpses as monks trod silently, their silver breakfast bowls glistening in the early light.

Laurie averted his eyes, looked away, shamed, as curious, knowing glances from the few early-risers, and tuk-tuk drivers, who passed him - a care-worn, crumpled farang staggering by - came his way, burning into his conscience.

“Oh, my God, oh, my God.”

And the curious, bleary look from the guard as he passed through the barrier, in this still early morning, at the entrance to the housing estate, to his rented house, his and Ellen’s rented house. Ellen – loyal, fiery but fun, capable and brave. Ellen – black and white, never grey. Trusting Ellen. Ellen in whose vocabulary ‘adultery’ did not feature.

“What have I done? Jesus Christ.”

Sheer, undiluted panic overwhelmed him.

At the same eatery in the sleazy part of town, the following night, Ning stuck her head around the curtain. Business was brisk. Kop’s mates were demanding. It was the end of the month, pay day, and they had money to spend. Suthinee was busy. She was no less irritable. Kop had not been pleased with her and a couple of thousand baht for her work the night before had not placated his ugly, hung-over mood. She guessed he needed more dough for the habit she suspected him of.

‘Why so long?’ he had asked, querulous and aggressive. ‘Why you no come back our room, why you stay him long time? Why you come back morning?’

‘He ole and tired, he take long time,’ she barked, ‘but he work harder than you,’ she added with venom.

Kop’s eyes narrowed.

‘Rawung, careful, Kop, you put too much, I think he die.’

‘What you mean?’

‘Ya-ba too much. He pass-out in tuk-tuk, he sleep all night. I think he die. Be careful.’

Kop shrugged. ‘Mai pen rai – not to worry - he OK.’ There were bigger fish in the sea, Kop knew. He joined his drinking pals.

Ning poked her head into the kitchen. ‘One each tonight.’

‘Arai, what?’

‘One each tonight,’ repeated Ning, chuckling. Suthinee peered through a chink in the curtain.

‘I take blonde, other too fat. Good. Young. Hope he have big cock,’ her laugh was harsh. ‘Something easy tonight. Same routine then,’ she instructed brusquely.

‘Ka, yes,’ replied Ning, knowing that the older woman had given an order.

And so it happened, the same routine. Although Ning was not so lucky and was left wanting, Suthinee’s fortune changed.

Bavarian Kurt had joined his friend, Axel, in Bangkok after the long flight from Munich via Frankfurt. He was decent, staid, dour, preferred soccer to seduction and yearned for a blonde with comfort-cushions for breasts. Someone like Jutta. Not a scrawny Asian brunette.

Axel had kept his promise to his old drinking partner and showed him around Bangkok for a few days before they flew north to Chiang Mai for some more sightseeing and night-time fun. Axel was based in Bangkok but came regularly to Chiang Mai for his business, exporting ceramics. After several years here he was familiar with Thai life. This little eatery wasn’t quite what Kurt had imagined, feeling hungry for a big wurst and a stein, but Axel had said the food was good and near the girlie-bars they would go on to afterwards.

The waitress was obliging and not bad looking. Then the cook came out. Average scrawny build, long, straight hair, nothing special to look at, a large mole on her left cheek. He would call a lady ‘confident’; this female was cocky, brazen, nothing demure about her at all - but his attention was drawn to her eyes – larger than he had noticed on Thai girls before, hard and mocking, yes, mocking eyes. She had made a bee-line for Axel. The waitress, more reticent, attached herself to him. They ate and drank, the girls waited and pawed. Axel was getting under the weather. The heat and exhaustion of working fulltime in Bangkok were taking its toll. Kurt was still a bit jet-lagged but otherwise rested from his vacation. Bavarian beer was no match for the inferior Thai stuff and he was holding his own very well, ‘Jah.’

‘Buddy, I don’t like the way you’re going,’ he said to Axel after a while. ‘Think of Jutta.’

‘Nothing’s going to happen,’ Axel said, extricating Suthinee’s persistent, menacing fingers from under his shirt. ‘This is how they are, all hope, hope for a poke, get used to it, OK? We’ll get going in a minute then you’ll see the other side of the Siamese cat, when we start to leave. Finish your beer.’

‘Jah, well, you drink it, I don’t need it. I guess I’m not stopping for more. I’ll go back past the night market and go to our room, OK? I’ll pass on the strip joint tonight. Be careful, verstehst du?’

‘Spoil-sport but OK, I’ll be back soon,’ growled Axel.

Axel’s head started to spin, to buzz; maybe it was the lights, strung on green plastic wires, devoid of shades, or the crude neon, or his over-indulgence of the beer but suddenly his vision took on a blue hue. Talking in her unusually low voice, encouragingly, coaxingly, she determinedly tugged and guided him over the uneven pavement, he tripping in the wet gutter, towards her room, another room, and she saw with wicked anticipation that his erection bulged against the front of his jeans, causing her own insatiable juices to flow in readiness. Axel felt high, he felt he was looking down on himself from above, or saw himself as the reflection in a mirror. Veins pulsed in his temples. He brushed a hand over the front of his Levi’s, feeling his straining cock; yet he was not in control of it. He felt no passion. He hated himself, hated her more and felt nothing but remorse – remorse for Jutta, pretty Jutta, trusting Jutta, Jutta waiting in Bangkok – remorse which quickly receded as his drugged and drunken state increased and he was on a roller-coaster and couldn’t stop himself, couldn’t get off …

And some hours later, ‘Gut Gott, Liebe Gott, Jutta!’

Suthinee sat, in her skimpy undies, patiently, provocatively astride a plastic chair, her features tweaked into a coy, seductive pose. The evening had been most successful, in all ways, she felt sure.

(End of Chapter 1.)

Debra Barnard

© Debra Barnard. All rights reserved by the author.

ISBN: 974-93040-3-9 

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Comments / Feedback

Mike
April 7, 2008, 11:39

Now this is an excellent first chapter that has me wanting to read the rest of Ms Barnard's book. Well written, not your usual opening gambit, and leaving one wanting more. I will be looking to buy this one soon.
icarus
April 8, 2008, 17:57

I have the impression that these 'first chapter' submissions rarely garner many reads. Wonder why?
Dana
April 8, 2008, 22:32

I share Icarus's quandry on this subject and have had a private email regarding this with Mike and Stickman and others. I regularly get pilloried on the Internet for having or expressing opinions because I am not a 'published author', and yet the 'published authors' often do not garner as many reads as unpublished authors.

According to the opinions of others this makes no sense; the published authors even have the covers of their books to illustrate the chapters. The best/worst example of this was Dean Barrett's HANGMAN'S POINT. I was embarrassed for him at the poor number of reads.

I have no bright ideas here: just a mystery. Part of a larger mystery of published authors for me. How come none of them ever participated on the Stickman site? How come they never responded to my numerous essays on the nature of and craft of writing? Where were their responses when I talked about and expressed opinions on literature? Hey, I thought these were 'published authors' who had dedicated themselves to writing and literary interests. Not a peep out of any of them over a six year period.

Would this have been the norm in any other industry? I do not think so. In theory, they had a lot to offer; in fact, they did not offer anything.

One theory offered to me as if I was six years old was that they did not feel we were equal to them. Really? I've read their writing. You need another theory.

A mystery Mr. Icarus.
lookpapa
April 9, 2008, 08:21

"I have no bright ideas here: just a mystery. Part of a larger mystery of published authors for me. How come none of them ever participated on the Stickman site? How come they never responded to my numerous essays on the nature of and craft of writing? Where were their responses when I talked about and expressed opinions on literature? Hey, I thought these were 'published authors' who had dedicated themselves to writing and literary interests. Not a peep out of any of them over a six year period. "

I may have the answer to your questions Dana. Is it possible that they did not know you existed? Or if they did they thought nothing of you? Somewhat similar of your sentiments about them.
Mike
April 9, 2008, 09:02

Icarus, I'd say your impressions are wrong in this case. Click over to the Book Previews folder and you will see most of the previews are doing well on average, some less, some much better than average. Almost all are doing at least as well as most of the average short stories in reads. The ones doing worse seem to be some that have already gotten a lot of exposure on other websites, or do not necessarily relate well to Thailand in theme. I also notice that the cover has a part to play in pulling readers in, the title as well, and a lot I think has to do with the summary blurb's ability to attract a reader to click on and read the first chapter. Also, a story/preview/article that has a lot of comments seems to attract others to click on and read what the fuss is about. It's a combination of things really, and I suspect over time these will gain a lot more reads than what is seen in just a week or so of exposure on the front page. Give it time, and after a while as we become even better known I do feel this will be a valued part of the site for our members and will continue to grow and be seen by the writers themselves as a good way to gain exposure for their work and possibly help them sell their work.
Mike
April 9, 2008, 09:26

"I share Icarus's quandry on this subject and have had a private email regarding this with Mike and Stickman and others. I regularly get pilloried on the Internet for having or expressing opinions because I am not a 'published author', and yet the 'published authors' often do not garner as many reads as unpublished authors."

I'd say the published authors do not get as many reads mainly due to the fact they rarely post/publish a complete work online, as their work is their income most do not give it away for free. I also think many published, known, authors avoid the internet due to the crap one can become entangled in when arguing/debating/discussing things with the general readership that has nothing to lose in their pitbull attacks and personal slinging matches and the general uncivilized discourse many of the 'keyboard warriors' are prone to engage in. Also, time is money. Why would a writer, whose sole income is his craft, waste time hanging around on the internet sites using valuable time getting into lengthy nonproductive discussions with unknown persons, rather than, say, writing more for his income, or talking to family and friends, replying to fan e-mails, etc? What would their incentive be to waste their time in the main part doing so?

"According to the opinions of others this makes no sense; the published authors even have the covers of their books to illustrate the chapters. The best/worst example of this was Dean Barrett's HANGMAN'S POINT. I was embarrassed for him at the poor number of reads."

Yet all his other previews have done quite well, Dana. There is nothing to be embarrassed about. Dean has many of these first chapter previews elsewhere and many have already read them. Also, Hangman's Point is not a Thai-specific book and I would say it has less appeal possibly for the readers here? But if you go and look at all Dean's other submissions here you will see they have all done quite well and continue to do so over time. I am very happy to be able to show these previews of Dean's work here, as I am sure many have been happy to be able to read these examples of his work here.

"I have no bright ideas here: just a mystery. Part of a larger mystery of published authors for me. How come none of them ever participated on the Stickman site?"

Maybe they never heard of it? Or possibly they saw no value in doing so? There are many reasons why, but one would be the fact that there is no spontaneous avenue to respond over on that site.

"How come they never responded to my numerous essays on the nature of and craft of writing?"

Some have, here. But on Stick's? How the hell could they?

"Where were their responses when I talked about and expressed opinions on literature? Hey, I thought these were 'published authors' who had dedicated themselves to writing and literary interests. Not a peep out of any of them over a six year period."

Maybe they were busy writing and getting published and paid? :-)

"Would this have been the norm in any other industry? I do not think so. In theory, they had a lot to offer; in fact, they did not offer anything."

While I agree it would be great to get feedback and commentary and discussion with/from the already published and established authors I do not feel they need to do so. They are busy themselves and have no obligation to chat with all and sundry. Possibly you'd do better writing to them personally at their e-mail addresses usually provided on their own personal websites? I doubt many read much online.

"One theory offered to me as if I was six years old was that they did not feel we were equal to them. Really? I've read their writing. You need another theory."

I hardly think this is so. More a lack of time and energy, and maybe an unwillingness to waste what little they have free?

"A mystery Mr. Icarus."

Not to me.
Dana
April 9, 2008, 09:27

"I may have the answer to your questions Dana. Is it possible that they did not know you existed? Or if they did they thought nothing of you? Somewhat similar of your sentiments about them."

Possibly Mr. Papa and an attractive idea for those that want to make everything US and THEM; but I can't help but notice that if you sponsor a book signing at a run down bar in a run down section of Bangkok populated by run down people they just about break both legs getting there. Ah, at last; their people. Knuckleheads who can not write and who can not read. Big happy friendly florid faced guys who say nice things; but can not remember the main characters name, or the plot line - and would not know a conumdrum, or an O'Henry ending, or a double meaning if you fish slapped them in the face with it.

The notion that these 'published authors' never heard of Stickmanbangkok.com and they never heard of me is an idea with currency. I have found that if you question the lounge lizards in any farang hotel invariably they have never heard of Stickmanbangkok.com and they have never heard of me. Too bad. Guys at the end of their lives who do not read and in many cases have not read. Lives spent like addicts mainlining the TV and the airconditioner.

Maybe if the published authors had read something of the literary interest on Stickmanbangkok.com they would have had fun. Hey, maybe they might actually have participated. And do I dare dream this dream: maybe they might have learned something.

But of course these are unreasonable dreams because we are to believe that they did not even know of Stickmanbangkok.com. Really? These are the same guys who are all over the net pushing and flogging books, and have their own websites, and run writing contests. Ask them to comment on the publishing industry, or the travails of getting published, or the unfairness of local book distribution, or the world wide devil organization run out of a basement in Geneva that keeps authors from getting fair royalties; and all of a sudden these guys are front and center and you can not shut them up. They did not know about Stickmanbangkok.com? Really. Too bad. We talked about writing a lot.

chuckwoww
April 9, 2008, 10:05

I published a few stories on Stick's site when he first started taking submissions. Then he stopped posting my riskier stuff, never gave me a reason, so I said to heck with it.
lookpapa
April 9, 2008, 10:47

"Possibly Mr. Papa and an attractive idea for those that want to make everything US and THEM; but I can't help but notice that if you sponsor a book signing at a run down bar in a run down section of Bangkok populated by run down people they just about break both legs getting there. Ah, at last; their people. Knuckleheads who can not write and who can not read. Big happy friendly florid faced guys who say nice things; but can not remember the main characters name, or the plot line - and would not know a conumdrum, or an O'Henry ending, or a double meaning if you fish slapped them in the face with it."

Knuckleheads they maybe but they're the buyers. The paying public who should not be held in contempt. Because it's them who make publishing viable. They read for momentary pleasure not to sit for an exam to see how much they retained. Maybe that's why you're not published; you write for yourself and a few here and there on limited sites. If you write for yourself you never have to think of the reader. And of course you have a job to earn a crust and pay for your Thailand trips. To some people writing is a career, to you it's an indulgance.
Dana
April 9, 2008, 14:01

Attn: Mr. Papa

Re: "To some people writing is a career, to you it's an indulgance."

This is where you should have started. A more pregnant statement would be hard to imagine.
icarus
April 9, 2008, 15:35

In some ways it is disappointing this 'conversation' has turned into a 'them published author' and 'us internet scribbler' wrangle. Perhaps it was inevitable.

Mike, I checked out the reader figures as you suggested and still had the impression they were lowish, though not abysmal. Also aren't there relatively few comments?

Some of it comes down to the successful contributors here being masters of the short form I think. These opening chapters are not alway immediately engaging and other times even try too hard to be so....
chuckwoww
April 9, 2008, 20:15

I wish you would hurry up and publish a book Dana. It would be great if you could join the elite group of published authors and give us your perspective from the inside. You could give signings in run down bars in run down sections of Bangkok populated by run down people and find out who your real fans are.

As for the question why some stories get more readers than others…I have no idea. A lot of the time I think people go back to read the comments so if a story is controversial in some way it usually gets more hits. Like this one. The most popular story on this site is Khunsanuk’s essay about Thai Tattoos, followed by rob’s ‘Thai Girls, Sex and the Supernatural’ and Turkfist’s ‘Ladyboy Lust’. Maybe something in the titles resonates with google searchers? Personally I’ve never seen posting here as a popularity contest.

Dana
April 9, 2008, 21:30

Attn: Mr. Woww

"I wish you would hurry up and publish a book Dana. It would be great if you could join the elite group of published authors and give us your perspective from the inside. You could give signings in run down bars in run down sections of Bangkok populated by run down people and find out who your real fans are.d"

I'll accept that as a supportive comment. I only need two things to get a book out: money and time. if you would send me money and time I would appreciate it and mention you in one of the front pages.

On another subject: there used to be a place I could go to on the net and read you and Turk Fist, particularly Turk Fist if I remember correctly. Can't remember where that site was. Can you help?

chuckwoww
April 10, 2008, 02:53

Excuses, excuses...all you need to do is stay away from Beach Road for a week or two and you should save enough money and time to get a few copies printed.

You may be thinking of nanaplaza.com....now called thai360.com. But I'm not sure if member's stories survived the change over.
lookpapa
April 10, 2008, 05:06

"I wish you would hurry up and publish a book Dana. It would be great if you could join the elite group of published authors and give us your perspective from the inside. You could give signings in run down bars in run down sections of Bangkok populated by run down people and find out who your real fans are."

Too right mate. But you're asking for the impossible.As he says he wants your money, then it won't be self publishing. Dana suffers from the modern decease..instant gratification. Here he can be published without fear of rejection and be in the limelight. Every time. I bet he does a tap dance every time he opens the fridge door too.
But I digress. Dana is a great wordsmith and he owns up to that in a modest way. But to be a great writer you need perseverance, a solitary term in your den or where ever you write. You need to immerse yourself in your art. That's not Dana. Even when he writes a short piece here he breaks it into 5 vignettes.Dana has a great beginning and he's the Master of the Ending..it's the middle which needs hard yakka that he can't do. That's why he rails against published novel writers..they can.
Not that I don't symphatise with him, the longest piece I've ever written was around 9000 words. But I don't claim to be a writer. The name of the game is to know your limitations. Not that I want to be unkind to Dana but his writing is the literary version of premature ejaculation.
Or maybe it's just ADD. Dunno..it's a shame,if he could only focus..


Dana
April 10, 2008, 05:55

"Excuses, excuses...all you need to do is stay away from Beach Road for a week or two and you should save enough money and time to get a few copies printed."

Actually, Mr. Woww (if I may call you Mr. Woww): I have found the biggest impediment to getting something in the 'go to a publisher' state is to keep writing. To get something published you have to STOP writing and turn your attentions to editing, and collating, and organizing, and schmoozing, and negotiating, and a lot of other things that are not writing.

My problem is that I can not stop writing. I have been telling myself for two years to stop writing and just do it; and yesterday I got involved in writing another short story. I was so happy writing the short story that I could not conceive of not writing it. So now I have added another short story to the pile and made absolutely no progress towards a book. I'm an idiot. Hey, maybe that's the title.

Your comedic remark regarding Beach Road is not far off the mark. If I was at the A.A. Hotel and I was supposed to be getting my writing in a 'go to a publsher' state but my 6th floor suite faced the ocean with a view of the boardwalk:

"Oh Sweet Jesus On A Cracker look at that. Look at that. Look at that woman. Oh god look at the way she looks. Look at those legs. Look at those shoulders and that hair. Oh god she is from Essan: dark skin, feet shaped like canoe paddles, black hair, almond eyes, white jeans, heaving bodice top, red lipstick, black nails - ok, I'll finish this book thing later; right now I just remembered I gotta run an errand on the Beach Road boulevard."

At any rate: I sometimes wonder if I have the discipline for writing, but I do not have the discipline for not writing.



chuckwoww
April 10, 2008, 07:04

OK. But it's not an unusual problem. You're a sprinter rather than a long distance guy. Nothing wrong with that. And you're right...writers shouldn't have to deal with the collating, organizing, printing, hustling side of things. Still it seems a shame that there isn't a book out there with the name Dana on it...something we can hold in our hands and marvel at.
Mike
April 10, 2008, 08:23

The things I would love to hear about from the already published authors that sometimes read here is this: how hard was it to get your work published? If you are self published, how many times did you get rejected by the traditional publishers before you gave up on that route and did it yourself? What have been your experiences since getting your writing published? Did it make for a successful feeling and qualm the demons all writers seem to have? Did it help raise your self esteem? Did your writing improve? Or did you stop writing all together? After finally getting published (however it was done) did the ordeal seem worth the effort? Do you have an agent? Where the hell did you find him or her?

I think many of us here, the unpublished writers and the readers with interest in the subject would love for some of the published authors to write a bit about the experience of getting published. But how should this be done? Should we ask for articles on the subject? Should we just ask the authors in the comments section individually about specific questions we may have? I'd love to see some discussion on this here or elsewhere on the site. Maybe someone can start off with an article on just this? Title it 'Getting Published - A Question to the Writers'? Or whatever you come up with.

I had hoped over time some of the writers whose books are showcased here would take a few minutes once in a while to join in some of the commentary left on their books shown here. But these are early times really and this is just starting to have a steady role on the site, a weekly showing, and hopefully over time these authors will join in the ocassional discussions that erupt here.
Dana
April 10, 2008, 09:09

"You're a sprinter rather than a long distance guy."

You know, I don't take offence at this and it falls under the category of "To thine own self be true." I love the labored breathing, and the locking up knees, and the pain in the backs of my eyes, and the tremours in my arms as I jackhammer the keyboard keys down the final slope to the ending. If something can be said in five sentences I am looking to do it in five words.

My fantasy would be to have been a Russian journalist during the final assault on Berlin during World War II. Every human emotion in extremis, every extreme character the options can offer, every bestial and subhuman subtext that can be imagined, and the almost certain knowledge that there will no tomorrow.

Not a place for book report writing, or term paper writing, or research writing we foolishly call novels today. You want to be the next Tom Clancy or James Michener and brag about your door stop books and your stamina? Fine. Not me. I see a woman and I see a door and the bombs are falling. I am taking that woman through that door and the rest is not going to take another fifty pages.

I do not disagree with what Mr. Lookpapa says, I just wonder if he could sound nicer when he says it. Surely there is a place for all of us. Think it is easy to establish characters and plot and action and description and humor and philosophic thought and ending in 800 words? Try it. Sometimes economy is the biggest critic and the hardest taskmaster.

I picked up a Tom Clancy book in the library the other day and it was 1000 pages. I could not help but wonder if he would have been better off publishing the synopsis that he sent to the publisher. At any rate, with some exceptions (none come to mind); I do not care for what I call the term paper novel where the author spent four months on the outline, and then two years on the research, and then eighteen months on the note cards; and then handed it over to his 'team' for final collation.

The best worst example of this was James Michener who used to send the pile off to the publisher and then say 'Don't call me until you have galley proofs.' At least he knew the game and in an uncomfortable way I have to respect him for knowing how to splash around in the mud puddle. He was an engaging successful novelist. I read his Hawaii and enjoyed it. I might have enjoyed it more if a hack writer assigned the project by a publisher had done it in 312 pages.

The problem, or the challenge to be charitable and sound knowledgable, about long long stories (novels) is that is is very hard to keep them from getting turgid. Lots of words. Oh god, so many words. Reminds me of Cortez's troops fleeing down the causeway at night and drowning when they fell into the water because they were carrying so much gold. So much gold. Too much weight. I prefer to write lean and fast and get my hands around someone's throat sooner rather than later. That is not a style that is easy to keep up for 500 to 1000 pages. My dream would be to write a novel that was lean and fast like an 800 word story but I think that would take a lot of drugs.

Reading a traditionally styled novel with traditonal pacing (and I have read hundreds of them) requires that the reader slow down and savor each mouthful. Maybe when I am older I will be more suited for this but right now my blood runs too quick. I am presently reading for the second time Paul Theroux's Dark Star Safari and enjoying it's slow meander; but then that is more of a journal text than a novel so maybe it does not count. When I was a teenager I had the patience for long dense Victorian novels with what Mr. Lookpapa describes as a lot of 'middle'. I can not do that now.

So, until the next assault on the outskirts of Berlin with dark thoughts and extreme violence; I will probably just stick to what I am good at. I have developed the idea over the last two years that I am essentially done with writing short (or long) stories with the Kingdom as the arena and I would like to write a novel with the Kingdom as an arena. However, I do not want to do a formula book, or a retread, or a term paper, or a research project, or a . . . I want the novel to come to me the same way so many of my stories come to me: in a flash followed by automatic writing. Long odds.

Criticizing someone because they have strong starts and finishes but weak middles may or may not be true; but often it betrays ignorance of the job that has to be done. In writing anything (short or long, but especially in short and very short stories) you have to grab the reader by the throat at the start and leaving them gasping at the end. At least that is Plan A. So, what is the middle for? Well, every sandwich has to have a middle. If you are Dickens or London and you are writing serialized magazine stories and getting paid by the word: then the middle grows, sometimes like a tumor. If you are Tom Clancy and you promised the publisher another 800 word blockbuster you have to have a big fat middle. 'Let's see, this story is going to have big submarines steaming around: I'll insert 75 pages on submarine develoment and construction, etc.'

In a short or very short story there is almost no place for a middle so the criticizm about strong starts and finishes and weak middles is irrelevant. But the subject is interesting. Ask yourself this question: how much of your life do you have categorized according to middles? When you think about a woman who was a part of your life years ago do you spend most of your time reviewing the middle; or are you fixated on what it was like at the start and what it was like at the end. At the college I work at I sometimes get involved in helping students with their final capstone papers (30-35) pages. Invariably, I find that the middles are fine because it is all formulaic plagerism and copy and paste and quotes. the starts and the finishes are weak because that is what requires writing.
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