It's All Relative, Isn't It?

By : sawadee2000
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Let me start by reiterating what I have said many times. I love living in Thailand. If I didn't I wouldn't be here. Despite things that alternately, delight, appall, amaze, stupefy, and sometimes simply bewilder me, I definitely feel that the good things here (at least for me) outweigh the bad. So until the day when the Thai immigration just tells us all to get the hell out, I'm here to stay. Now I have only lived here three years, so I am hardly an expert on all things Thai, but I do feel that I've earned the right to an opinion or two. Certainly being married to my Thai wife for eight years has given me some insight into the Thai society. The question is, do I voice my opinions or simply keep my big, fat farang mouth shut.

If I was simply an ignorant no-nothing whiner, I would probably be well advised to do the later. In fact some out there in cyberspace have told me that I am obviously an ignorant American, trying to impose my "western standards" on an Asian society. In so many words, quit your complaining and simply accept that people do things differently here. My viewpoints are biased and that how people chose to live is simply relative. There are no absolute standards of right and wrong. So just shut up already. Oh please! Give me a break! That kind of intellectual laziness just doesn't cut it in the real world.

While many things are indeed relative from one society to another, some things are not. I certainly didn't decide to come to Thailand expecting to find the same life I was living in the U.S. If that were the case, I would have simply stayed where I was, earning a whole lot more money and generally enjoying a higher standard of living. I came to Thailand with my eyes wide open, knowing that things would be very different. Indeed that was part of the appeal; to experience a completely different way of life. In most ways my life here has been a positive experience. I don't regret for a moment making the decision to move here. My wife and I have a nice home, good friends, and of course a beautiful little boy to keep us busy 24/7.

However life here in the Land of Smiles is not all mangos and cream. There are some serious deficiencies that beg to be addressed. Not to do so would mean that that I've lost all my critical faculties. Well I'm not senile quite yet, or walking around with rose colored glasses. I call things as I see them. I do so only because I do love this place, and would like nothing better than to see Thailand prosper.

In an earlier submission, "You don't understand our culture" I discussed what I consider the three major roadblocks to progress in Thai society: apathy, face, and corruption. I won't bother to hash out the same observations. The point I want to make today is that not only do I have every right to express my opinions, but these opinions are based on careful observation and reflection.

Yes, many things about the way people choose to live are completely relative. These include what people like to eat, how they dress, what music they enjoy, what they find humorous, their spirituality, political philosophy, and much, much more. It's this variety that gives spice to life. It would be a dreary homogenous world without these differences. That said however, I firmly believe that there are standards of behavior that civilized people can agree on. When these standards are not being met, concerned members of society have the obligation to point this out. Not to do so is a sure fired plan for chaos.

Let me give you a few examples.

Most of you reading this consider it common sense to wash your hands with soap and water after using the toilet. On paper, the school where I am currently teaching agrees. By every classroom door is an illustrated poster explaining the importance of hand washing....with plenty of soap; and yet there is no soap to be found anywhere in the school! There is very little to be gained by asking for the school to provide some, I have simply wound up bringing my own. Gee, I guess my western prejudices are blinding me once again. Why do I expect Thai people to follow commonly accepted sanitary practices? After all, would you like me to prepare dinner for you with hands covered with fecal bacteria? And while I'm "ranting" (at least in some peoples minds) about toilets, it's obviously a quaint western attitude to expect a reasonably clean restroom, especially if I'm paying 3 baht to use the damned thing! I don't need, (or want) a liveried attendant. All I expect is a toilet that is not completely disgusting. I don't care if it's a squatter. What kind of toilet people like to use is completely relative. So I'm not belly aching that western flush toilets are not always available. If the toilet is reasonably clean, I'm happy.

On another topic, in December I was driving down from Lampang to Buriram to visit my wife's family. I will admit that I like to drive as fast, but only as fast as the law allows. Traffic laws are there for our safety. Let's forget for the moment that for most Thais, these traffic laws are merely vague "suggestions". Anyway, at one point I slowed down to go through a police checkpoint. No big deal. As soon as one of the boys in brown spies my farang face, he immediately motioned me to pull over. "You are speeding. You must pay 400 baht" What the f**k? I was certainly NOT speeding! I wasn't even going 90 KPH. And even if I had been, how would he know? There was no radar checking going on. When I explained that I was not speeding, this guy simply gives me a choice, pay here right now or come with him to the station. My mother didn't raise a dummy, so seeing that the fix was in, I simply coughed up the cash so I could get on my way. The 400 baht was promptly tucked away in the cop's pocket, and I was motioned to get the hell out of there. Not surprisingly, I was not given any sort of written citation. I wonder how much of the day's take had to be split with his superiors.

Welcome to Thailand!

Oh, I guess actually expecting an honest police force is another of my western prejudices rearing its ugly head again. I could go on giving many other examples of where legitimate criticism of how things are done here in Thailand, but I don't want to seem overly negative. There is not a country on the planet that is such a utopia that it is exempt from legitimate criticism. I could go on for hours talking about my former home's deficiencies, but this is NOT the place for that discussion. I'm talking about Thailand. I live here now. I like to be positive whenever I can. I much prefer to see a glass that's half full as opposed to one that's half empty. Unfortunately that's not always possible. Not everything in life is relative. Some things are clearly right or wrong. All we can do is try our best to distinguish between the two. In the mean time I have no intention of either being rude to the Thais when discussing their country or burying my head in the sand. I will continue to be optimistic whenever possible, and critical whenever necessary.

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lookpapa
August 13, 2008, 13:21

While I agree with the general observations you make in this and other of your stories I doubt that you came to Thailand for a lower standard of living. But who knows , I can only go by what you write. Most people opt to live where their standard of living is higher. That's why your country is such a sought after place for many of the hungry of the World.
sawadee2000
August 13, 2008, 17:55

I came to Thailand knowing that I would have to simplify my life, but definitely NOT to lower my standard of living. That is to say I enjoy my few creature comforts: A/C, hot water, a flush toilet, screens in the windows etc. In fact I told my tee-rak that having these things was a precondition for moving to LOS! I have as nice a kitchen as I had back in the states.

What I did give up, and happily so, was a lot of the day to day materialism that never seems to satisfy. You always need another fix of "stuff". So to hell with the state of the art home theater, fancy mobile phone, dinners at expensive restaurants etc.

Please don't think that I look down at fine material possessions, or people who enjoy them. I don't. At this point in my life I simply appreciate day to day living. Of course IF I were to suddenly come into a vast fortune, which is not very likely, I would happily indulge myself. But for now I'm content with what I should say is a hell of a lot more than your average Thai has.
BW
August 13, 2008, 21:12

Corruption occurs everywhere in the world, including here in the U.S., but the figures are usually quite higher. Banks for instance process withdrawal transactions from highest to lowest, in a deliberate attempt to overdraw a person's account as often as possible. The overdraft charges are the equivalent of about 1000 baht each.

The police and the crooked municipalities aren't any better when it comes to stealing money from motorists. I recently fought a ticket, and despite the fact that the officer could not verify the calibration of his instrument, nor that it was in accordance with proper operating conditions, as stated by law, I still got hit with the almost 6000 baht equivalent fine.

Of course, fighting REAL CRIME costs money and is dangerous. Far easier to shake down an honest, taxpayer who is merely running a bit late and trying to get to work on time.
lookpapa
August 14, 2008, 10:03

Thanks for the clarification S2000. It's only because you said, and I quote: "I would have simply stayed where I was, earning a whole lot more money and generally enjoying a higher standard of living." that I wrote what I did. Of course you have more than the average Thai has , especially upcountry. I dare say you have more expectations too.
Being in a materially advantageous position as compared to the average local is really not the issue here. It's more what you wanted to get away from than what you came for. I mean you certainly did not come for all those things negative which you write about. Neither did the locals look for a champion in your good self.
That was self appointed.
Look , I never met you but I would have liked to. But as it is I can only read what you write plus read between the lines.
Furthermore having a little boy myself ,only a few years older than yours, I feel one day in the not too distant future you'll be thinking about his future just like I did 3 years ago. That is way more important than A/c , flushing toilets ,etc in Thailand.
Cent
August 14, 2008, 16:05

"to experience a completely different way of life"

I think that quote from this story of Sawadee's says it all really. Not everyone is so wrapped up in having their highest 'standard of living' that they will not try something different, for an experience, for an adventure, for a change in the same old life they were leading. Besides, if we are talking about material things, living in Thailand can be a hell of a lot cheaper and many farangs can live a much higher standard of living here than in the west on the same money/income. Automobiles are more expensive, but housing, clothing, food (both home cooked and eating out), and 'entertainment' is a lot cheaper. Want to join a club with swimming pool, gym, clubhouse with ping pong, billiards/pool, etc.? Much cheaper here than back in the states. Medical costs? Much cheaper here than there, and high quality care much better than you can get in the states that will include all the 'extras' we cannot get even when insured in the states. Want a great 2 hour Thai traditional massage 3 or 4 days a week? No problem for most farangs living here. 300 baht for 2 hours. Foot massage can be had for 100 baht for an hour. Weekly manicure and pedicure and haircut? Cheap enough to do without breaking your budget. Want to take the kids and wife to a movie? Cheap, very cheap. The zoo? A theme park/amusement park? Much much less than in the states. Want to have your laundry done? Very inexpensive to do here. Need to have some dental work done? A hell of a lot cheaper and pleasant here for your pocketbook. And professional as well.

If you have young children schools might be an issue, and the best schools in Bangkok, the foreign schools/international schools, are expensive if that is what you need.

But 'quality of life' and 'living standards' for most farang are actually better here in Thailand than in the west, for most, when you compare the expense. More bang for your buck as they say.

But then, it all depends on the individual and what he wants out of life with what he can afford to spend to get those things he desires.

And as Sawadee states, some of those living here, many in fact I would presume, want "to experience a completely different way of life". Many do, some find it is not for them.
sawadee2000
August 15, 2008, 12:33

All in all, despite things that occassionally make you want to scream, life for me is pretty good here in Thailand, Do I wish I had more "stashed" in the bank? Well I wouldn't turn my nose up at it. But I can honestly say that most mornings I'm happy we made the move. My son's futire though IS a big consideration. He wasn't part of our "master plan"! If he can't get a decent education here, I'll definitely have to think about returning to the U.S. I still have a few years to think about it. In the meantime he is busy learning Thai, English and Issan!
lookpapa
August 15, 2008, 16:19

If Sam Sawadee is to have all the protection he needs you'd have to register him at The US embassy as a citizen by his father. I did that at my embassy when our son was 18 months old and it proved to be invaluable 3 years down the track.
I'm not saying he can't get a decent education over there but you got to look past that. The issues you brought up in a previous submission ,namely apathy, face, and corruption are some of the problems your son may have to live with if you stay. I'm just saying.
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