So Just How Dangerous Is It Here?

By : sawadee2000
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It seems when I read Stick's weekly report, there are too many reports of a Farang who took an unexpected "flying lesson" from a hotel balcony, or a woman who was raped. A recent CNN segment spoke of Thailand as being a kind of vortex for criminal activity. Why is it that every pedophile or social deviant seems to get apprehended in Thailand? So I suppose it's time to ask the simple question, just how dangerous is it here?

I am not the world's best Internet researcher. I'm sure that many of you could do a much better job than me in tracking down statistics. In fact that some of you will fill in some of the gaps. But anyway here's what I was able to determine. Let's start with murder.

Crime Statistics > Murders (per capita) (most recent) by country
Showing latest available data.
Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1
Colombia: 0.617847 per 1,000 people
#2
South Africa: 0.496008 per 1,000 people
#3
Jamaica: 0.324196 per 1,000 people
#4
Venezuela: 0.316138 per 1,000 people
#5
Russia:/td> 0.201534 per 1,000 people
#14
Thailand: 0.0800798 per 1,000 people
  Weighted average:
0.1 per 1,000 people
DEFINITION: Total recorded intentional homicides, completed. Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. Per capita figures expressed per 1,000 population.
SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems

Crime Statistics > Murders (per capita) (most recent) by country

So the Land of Smiles comes in at an Amazing # 14! Wow! I thought my former home in the U.S.A. was a dangerous place! But it comes in at # 24. Still not an enviable position, but less than little old Thailand. Does this make afraid to walk the streets? Not in the least. First of all most murders are the result of domestic disputes. Jealous husbands, wives, boyfriends, girlfriends tend to take their revenge seriously! I remember a massage girl I knew in Bangkok. In the middle of my massage she received a phone call. Her brother, who was a police captain in Isaan and his wife had just been shot dead. Apparently someone was fooling around with someone whose spouse took umbrage at the affair settled things the tried and true Thai way. Often times alcohol is a major factor which can turn a seemingly minor dispute into a deadly one. I recently wrote about how enjoyable Songkran was here in Lampang, and how much alcohol was being consumed. According to my wife during the wee hours of the night there were a number of stabbings and a shooting or two. Undoubtedly there are places that any Farang should not venture into late at night, but that's true back in Farangland as well.

Okay let's talk about rape. Here are the statistics:
#1 United States: 89,110
#2 South Africa: 53,008
#3 Canada: 24,049
#4 Australia: 15,630
#14 Thailand: 4,020

Here the USA tops the list to my everlasting shame. Thailand comes in at # 14! Boy that's one statistic you're not likely to hear about from the Thai Tourist Authority! What I have been unable to determine, and perhaps some of you can help me with this, is how many tourists are raped here every year. Rape is of course an under reported crime worldwide. Many women are simply ashamed to tell anyone about their violation. Often police departments are not prepared to deal with the trauma of a rape victim. Somehow I don't imagine that the boys in brown have received any special training. In many cases men who are in positions of authority still hold to the notion that it must have been the woman's fault. She was "asking for it." Make no mistake about it. Rape has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with abuse. I would imagine that the girls working the P4P trade must be especially vulnerable. First of all some (not many, but even a few are too much) Farangs are sickos, who consider the bar girls just "so much meat." These guys delight in playing out their sick violent fantasies. Second of all I don't imagine the police would have much sympathy. Hey, If you're in that line of work, what can you expect? Then there is the matter of spousal rape. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the Thai judicial system even recognizes that as a crime. So how dangerous is it for a woman tourist to walk around at night? I suppose the best advice is for ladies to watch how much they drink, and to try not to walk alone in secluded places. That's so sad really. But I think in general tourists are not in any greater danger here than they would be back in the west.

What about violent assaults in general? For some reason I'm not able to copy and paste the chart. I'll just say that coming in at # 1 is South Africa at 12.0752 assaults per 1000. Thailand does a bit better here at # 44 with 3.13542 per thousand. Again I am unable to find out how many assaults are committed against tourists. Stick always manages to relate a dust up or two. Some are unprovoked attacks. Others seem to be a well deserved beating of a drunk who was way over the line in one way or another.

Here are some other vital stats.

Burglaries 13,222 Thailand is [32nd of 54]
Car thefts 3,276 [35th of 55]
Drug offences 428.9 per 100,000 people [6th of 34]
Embezzlements 12,846 [5th of 44]
Executions 1 executions [28th of 33] This one was a surprise. I thought there would be more!

Women make up more than 10% of the prison population in only six countries: Thailand, , Qatar, Paraguay, Costa Rica, and Singapore.

Now let's talk about the biggest danger to all of us living here, traffic accidents. Here's an interesting quote from the International Red Cross regarding motorcycle accidents.

Thailand has one of the highest rates of motorcycle injuries and deaths in Southeast Asia because not enough drivers wear a safety helmet, according to officials and aid agencies. Alarmingly, the number of motorcycle accidents in the country doubled between 2001 and 2005, with 80,000 accidents reported last year, according to the Royal Thai Police Office. What's more, around 38,000 accident-related injuries were reported in 2005 compared to 19,000 in 2001.

How many times a week do you see some motor cycle carnage? I see at least 2-3 per week. I was unable to find any statistics about car and truck accidents, so send some if you find any! Driving here in Thailand is always a hit or miss situation. (no pun intended...really!) No matter how conscientious a driver you are, it's difficult to avoid "almost" being killed. While I'm sure there are worse drivers in the world, The Thais are the worst I've ever had to contend with! The driver's tests they have here are simply a waste of time. Thais believe in only one "rule of the road" and that's the right of way. Perversely though that means: "I have to go where I want, when I want, so get the hell out of my way!" I've learned to take nothing for granted when sharing the road with a Thai. Stop at a red light or a stop sign? You must be joking! Now even when I have a green light, I simply assume that some fool will be speeding through the intersection. I've tried to grow a few more sets of eyes to watch out for motorcycles in my blind spot, but deep down I know that someday I'm going to hit one. And of course whose fault will it inevitable be? Well we all know the farang is always wrong! Maybe it's a Buddhist thing, but Thai drivers simply refuse to look before pulling out in traffic. No fear of death I guess. Also eye contact is a no-no. Somehow it's like children playing a game. If you don't acknowledge someone's presence, then they simply aren't there! Oh well, if I were a Christian I would have a St. Christopher's medal hanging around my mirror. But instead I'll just do my best to stay alert and hope my good karma account is topped up!

According to the statistics for burglary, Thailand doesn't seem like a hot spot for house breaking. That of course doesn't stop the Thais from walling themselves in. Robert Frost once coined the line, "good fences good neighbors make." I doubt though they he had in mind the kind of fortress mentality that every Thai seems to share. My darling wife wouldn't even consider not having our home "protected" by walls and gates. She really and truly believes that if the gate were to be left open, even during the day, hat hoards of burglars would descend to ransack the place! Why do I have visions of guys dressed like the Beagle Boys straight out of Scrooge McDuck? I actually like to keep the gate closed, but only to keep stray dogs from using our yard as a toilet, but the idea that our wall would keep any determined thief out is absurd. I demonstrated this to my wife by climbing over it in about 5 seconds. Boy, that's a real deterrent! One of my neighbors has broken glass cemented to the top of his wall. That would hurt I must admit.

A Dutch friend who lives on a secluded dirt road behind our house isn't taking any chances, since his house was broken into a few years ago and thousands of dollars worth of audio and computer equipment were stolen. It turns out that the thief was a student of his wife. This guy apparently should be featured on The World's Dumbest Criminals. The computer needed a security code to be entered before it could be used. The thief brought it to a local computer shop and told the owner some B.S. about losing the code. The owner said to leave it with him and he would work on it. While doing just that, the owner was shocked to see a picture of my friend's wife come up on the screen. Apparently she was a friend of his! Smelling a rat, he contacted the police, who set up a "sting operation". When the unsuspecting thief showed up to pick up "his" computer, the detectives pounced on the fool.

Eventually my neighbor got all of his equipment returned, but having been burned once, he wasn't about to take any chances in the future. When you approach his home, the first thing you see are large signs warning that his fence is electrified! (and it really is!) If for some reason some Ninja pole vaulted over the fence, halogen lights so bright that that would melt paint would come on. If someone were actually able to enter the house, sirens would immediately start blaring so loudly, that you would think that the gates of Hell had opened! Somehow I don't think my friend needs fear any more robberies. Is all this overkill? Well his job often requires him to be away from home for extended periods of time. If nothing else he can rest a little easier while on the road.

For myself, I'm content to have some motion activated floodlights around the house. Although my wife wanted to, I refused to have bars on the windows. Hey, what am I, a prisoner? The best defense we have against burglary are our neighbors, some of whom notice every little movement in the neighborhood.

So let's sum it all up. If you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, you probably could get yourself murdered, assaulted, raped, robbed or run over. But on the whole you could probably manage to do that back in Farangland. That's not to say that we don't all need to be vigilant. That's just common sense. But I can honestly say that I never fear for my life here in the Land of Smiles...except of course when driving! Then all bets for survival are off!

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korski
September 24, 2008, 21:29

This is a fascinating topic, but the analysis is deeply flawed. Some examples. When talking about rape, he writes: Here the USA tops the list to my everlasting shame.

This is the wrong conclusion to draw from the numbers. The U.S. has just over 300 million people, Australia about 20 million and Canada about 33 million. What this means is that with 20 mil people and 15,000 rapes, Australia EFFECTIVELY has 225,000 rapes, compared to the US. Canada with its 24,000 rapes also has more than 220,000 rapes, EFFECTIVELY speaking and compared to the U.S.


I would bet that Thailand effectively has many more rapes than the US, and not just because of the difference in population; but also because spousal abuse is so much greater than in the US, and because of the extremely poor reporting in Thailand on just about everything. Then, there is the matter of the attitude, in general, toward women in Thailand vs. the U.S., another factor that would suggest the effective rape rate is higher, and maybe much higher, in Thailand than in the U.S.

Take another example. He writes: First of all some (not many, but even a few are too much) Farangs are sickos, who consider the bar girls just "so much meat." These guys delight in playing out their sick violent fantasies.

The fact is we know nothing at all about this issue. No doubt there are some sickos among the mongers, and some do see the women as meat; but the same can be said in the US, in Germany, in Australia, etc. As for playing out "violent fantasies," my guess is that this is quite rare. But again, no one knows, and these kinds of claims, more than most, are little more than pure prejudice and wild guessing games.

It goes without saying that theft and break-ins are geographically isolated. No white and many blacks won't live long living in South Central L.A. and many parts of Washington D.C. I live south of L.A. in a city of more than 125,000 and there is one homicide a year. I don't lock the doors on my house three or four nights a week, and I leave my keys in my car when I go shopping, and it's a new car. even leave back doors wide open when I am aware for a day or two!

As in Thailand so in the U.S. with regard to murder. Most murders occur among people who know each other, and there is a disproportionate number in the Afro-American community.

A point already made but worth repeating. Even in the First World stats of the sort used here are not that good. In the Third World they are notoriously bad and are practically meaningless. For example, violence is South Africa is far worse than any statistics would indicate.
Dana
September 24, 2008, 21:46

Successful and harmonious social intercourse combined with the dignity of a safe abode is a tough combination to crack. However, I am not without powers of intellect and I have decided that when I retire to Thailand my home will be surrounded by 50 caliber machine guns fed from continous feed underground munitions bunkers.

So far this is not particularly noteworthy in terms of Thailand home protection systems. But now comes the kicker. These machine guns will automatically fire for fifteen seconds every minute around the clock. I'm a thinker.

The beauty of this home protection system is that no person or persons can take offense regarding political correctness or social discrimination. Got a beating heart? On my property? You are taking a bullet. Everyone is treated exactly the same. Like I said. I'm a thinker.
Marc Holt
September 25, 2008, 07:58

I had a mate living in Thonburi a while back. His house was broken into about 6 or 7 times before he finally had enough. He rigged up wiring to all the downstairs window steel bars and plugged it in. Soon after he was woken in the middle of the night by horrible screams. By the time he got downstairs the thief had managed to disconnect himself. But my mate was never bothered again.
Union Hill
September 25, 2008, 10:35

I think we all know that statistics can be presented to support any case you care to make. In the UK my house was burgled twice in one year. My car was broken into three times in the same year in three different cities. Brawling is commonplace in most British city centres on Friday and Saturday nights. One of my neighbours (in Southampton) was beaten to death in front of his house by two drunken women when he told them to stop damaging his fence.
In Thailand I have neither seen or experienced anything comparable. However, business disputes are frequently settled with violence and sometimes murder. Drunken policemen have often made the news after committing acts of seemingly random violence and road accidents are commonplace. As for rape and violence towards women, I agree with Korski - we will probably never know.
sawadee2000
September 25, 2008, 10:54

Korski

I admit that my statistics could be a LOT better. What I came up was through causal searches. I know that there is better data out there, and I hope that folks will send it in, especially for crimes committed again foreigners visiting or living here.

Yes my rape statistics were not per capita. THOSE figures would be useful indeed.

Regarding farangs who abuse the ladies here, what I know is strictly through stories I've read. I have no first hand data whatsoever. But I think these guys are not in the majority. There are certainly plenty of sickos everywhere on earth....including LOS. There is certainly plenty of domestic abuse. My father-in-law has laid into my wife's mom from time to time. That, among other things is why she lives with us now.

The main point I was trying to get across, was that although there ARE plenty of dangers to look out for here in Thailand, we are in general not any more likely to be a victim than if we were still living in Farangland. Alcohol can often be a big factor in folks putting themselves in dangerous situation. And of course the whole p4p world is chock full of questionable people who are more than willing to take advantage of anyone who lets their guard down.

I wish there was some independent group that kept track of assaults against foreigners here. Undoubtedly many crimes are not reported, or are written off by the police.

In the end, at least out here in the "sticks", I feel safe. I doubt though that I'm up for a midnight stroll through the darkened streets of Lampang. But I wouldn't do that even in my former Masachusetts town.

Hey Dana, feel free to stop by and install one of your patented security systems! My wife would sleep better knowing that there was plenty of firepower protecting us!
Richard Mather
September 25, 2008, 11:42

"One of my neighbours has broken glass cemented to the top of his wall . . ."

This thought provoking article was food for thought. The line that I copied raised a smile, though. Over here in the UK it is illegal to indulge in this practice in fear that Mr Burgler injures himself. (Ludicrous but True Dep't). I mention this only to illustrate the differences between one country and another.

"For a man's home is his castle, et domus sua culque est tutissimum refugium [and each man's home is his safest refuge].
Sir Edward Coke (1552 - 1634)
English Jurist
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